The Green Room Podcast

Ep 47 - The Face of Social Equity & Entrepreneurship in Cannabis. An interview w/ Danicka Brown Frazier, & Olamiji Pearse, Greenish Vibes

December 07, 2021 Ronjini Joshua, Danicka Brown Frazier Episode 47
The Green Room Podcast
Ep 47 - The Face of Social Equity & Entrepreneurship in Cannabis. An interview w/ Danicka Brown Frazier, & Olamiji Pearse, Greenish Vibes
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In this episode we got a chance to interview Danicka Brown-Frazier & Olamiji Pearse.  The dynamic duo currently operates Greenish Vibes, a Cannabis accessory & CBD boutique that will soon transition into a Cannabis Microbusiness in California. Greenish Vibes also focuses on projects to improve equity for black farmers of industrial hemp in the US and West Africa.

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Ronjini Joshua:

In this interview with greenish vibes, Danicka Brown Frazier and Olamiji Pearse talk about social equity and getting into the cannabis market as black founding women and even their experience at their first mjbizcon. They also talk about upcoming cultural trips and how they're bringing social equity to South Africa and back to California. Again, join us and this interview with Danica and Olameji. Okay, today we are being joined by Danicka Brown Frazier and Olamiji Pearse from greenish vibes. Hi, ladies, how are you guys doing? Hi. Good. Thank you for joining us on the green room podcast. So we are going to be talking a little bit about mjbizcon today. And then we're also gonna be talking about what you guys are doing in this space, your journey how you got here. We were kind of, you know, vibing right before here, so I could get a little background. But can you guys give me and your individual stories of like, just time you got to this point, like how you get into cannabis?

Danicka Brown Frazier:

Certainly, so I have a bachelor's in finance and economics. I am originally from Chicago, I thought that I would be like in the corporate finance world, you know, which led to entrepreneurship in real estate. So I've done real estate and invested in businesses for the last 13 plus years. When I came to San Diego, we didn't know a single person and um, it was really just starting over so while I thought that I would continue my practice being licensed in Illinois and California, I thought that you know, that would be the path. Yeah. And it just turned into cannabis.

Ronjini Joshua:

Yeah. Like I was stressed out. So go different route.

Danicka Brown Frazier:

You're not no seriously but as a cannabis, the cannabis industry became are starting to become legal in Illinois, where I'm from, we started to research the low barrier way to enter the industry. And so that's how the online accessory store began. So we have we curate collections of smoking accessories, plus CBD, wellness products from women and black owned brands intentionally. And we also host educational lifestyle events, we lead with passion and purpose and you know, just a way to tell our, you know, consumers how to integrate cannabis into their lifestyles.

Ronjini Joshua:

So take it back a little bit more for me, like how did you get into wanting to work in the cannabis industry?

Danicka Brown Frazier:

Um, you know, I think that I just recognized that it was an industry like I've been an entrepreneur, I'm always looking at the trends I'm looking at, I own the Juice Bar, way back, you know, 10 years

Ronjini Joshua:

ago job trends, yeah, juice bar.

Danicka Brown Frazier:

I mean, you have the trends, but you also have business and you know, how can you be strategic in that market and make your impact? And you know, for me, I was passionate about fitness and, you know, all those things, I'm leading with my passion, and I love how can I align with that industry. So cannabis specifically, is such a large industry that has, you know, impacted black and brown people a lot in a lot of ways. And so, I came from that perspective, like, we want to have representation in the industry, we want to get ahead so that those coming behind us can have some resources, you know, from the, you know, people that are already in the industry to help them and we just want to create some generational wealth.

Ronjini Joshua:

Yeah, so yeah, how about your energy? Um,

Olameji Pierce:

so I have a little more personal experience with cannabis. I grew up in a household where it was normalized most of my family was using it in some capacity and so just having it around it just was just something that was around you know, wasn't is is becoming something new to the world you know, now that is legal and people are able to enjoy it for a variety of reasons that they are but in my household it just was something that was there just mail was just there you just Yeah, you really didn't even know what it was it just was there yes it's almost a blended with the incense right um, I am first generation born in America I am Nigerian heritage and so that culture of senses and smells and things that was big in our house, like I said, it blended with the instance I really didn't even know really what it was until I became a like, preteen teenage years. When I started my, my menstruation, period, and I was getting I have really bad cramps. And so the boyfriend I had at the time, he was like, why don't you try you know, smoking and may help. And it actually helps.

Ronjini Joshua:

I have never heard of that. That is crazy. Okay, so big.

Olameji Pierce:

I know, some of the and you know, we'll speak about research and development we wants to do with the plant in ways in ways that they can help the quality of life with women, right? women's health, reproductive systems and things like that. So it was that I tried it. And any other time I would try with friends and whatever in high school, I would get really paranoid. And it wasn't something that I enjoyed to do outside of the pain relief that it gave me that during that time of the month, and so, I'm also similar to the Nika I am entrepreneur. For the last 10 years, I have been in public relations, communications and strategic brand strategy. I'm currently work for marketing company, national marketing company, my nine to five as a brand specialist. And so this is my world, you know, what, what are your What's the trend? What are people doing? What are people talking about? And because I'm Nigerian, similar to my best friend, um, I lead with my passion. Yeah, Africa is, um, that's my heart and soul. And so with that in mind, whenever I'm traveling to Africa, I'm looking at what are the trends in America? What are we what can we take back to Africa, or what is going to be coming into Africa? So, in 2019, right before the pandemic, I traveled to Gambia, I was preparing to travel to Gambia, and you know, just in my speaking to myself, my meditative state, what are you taking to Africa? What are you going to take? What business? What are you going to create? What's going to be your enterprise? And I walked out of the restaurant and I saw CBD? Of course, yeah, of course they are. Yes. This is a cultural experience, this plant this is this belongs to people of African descent, since time immemorial, since we've known about it right. And it was a black market, it was illegal, you know, now, that is a different story. But that whole, you know, coming to light of, that's what you're going to take back, allow me to engage with the Ministry of Agriculture in Gambia to advocate for the development and cultivation of industrial hemp, um, ultimately wanted to gift me some land so that we could, you know, yeah, bring some professionals over to train their young people who are of, you know, labor and engaged, yes, to master this industry. I really believe that this is something that could change the face of the continent on a variety of levels. We're still in the process of that conversation. It's not legal in Gambia. But it was in 2015, that I was traveling to South Africa, I had the opportunity to travel for some cultural engagement. And I was gifted land there. And so recently, this year, as we've started to work with each other, just in the last year, I guess, couple years now, because we're

Ronjini Joshua:

in 2021. Yeah, time is fine. Like to

Olameji Pierce:

2022 is like a ton. Yeah. I'm working on it. So don't judge me, too, when it comes up, and I'm still struggling. But um, we were talking about, you know, what we were going to be working on this year, I told her, we got to get to South Africa to take advantage of this land that they gifted me. So we're having the conversation of how I wanted to come about and utilize this land. However, when there was a gift, it was gifted, just, you know, for novelty to build a house of beautiful cars on. And so, and this last year, I'm like, you know, forget house is legal in South Africa. Let's go Yeah. Oh, you know, let's go and see what we can really do. Yeah, you know, and so that's really how our cannabis and culture trip came into fruition. And that's kind of what we're working on currently.

Ronjini Joshua:

So, tell us a little bit more about that. Yeah, I guess your personal that. Yeah, you segwayed into it really nicely. So tell us a little bit about the cannabis and culture. Okay. I know that it feels so good to like talk with the sound. Yeah.

Danicka Brown Frazier:

About that under here. Does it matter? can't

Ronjini Joshua:

push them push them up? So they're like, tight now? No, no, because they won't go past or you gonna hold on to him like that? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So the cannabis plus culture business trip. Let me let me should I ask that again? I mean, I think your question was good enough right beforehand, but if it helps lead him into it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Tell us a little bit about the cannabis and culture trip and what that exactly entails.

Danicka Brown Frazier:

So the cannabis plus culture business trip will be held November 13 through the 23rd of 20. 21 in Johannesburg, South Africa. In addition to Durban, during this time, we're traveling with a small group of travelers. The greenish vive site will create experiences during our travel, so we'll do cannabis plus yoga, we'll do a awaken make sessions. So we've curated these experiences during that trip, we will attend the International Trade Fair that brings millions of people, and about $40 billion in trade. As attendees that's in Durban, we will set up an exhibition during that festival, I'm in basically a mock of what our retail store would look like the raw the product poppin, Barclay Cush, clean session goods, a curated selection of products to introduce to the market. So you're introducing products

Ronjini Joshua:

to the South American market, South Africa, South African, sorry, South African market. Okay. So, um, so you guys have established these partnerships? How did how did you guys do that? And kind of what was your process?

Danicka Brown Frazier:

Um, so it began, you know, 2020, early or 2019, when we started planning, I started the business, like a business, you know, so I get my paperwork set up and created these wholesale accounts with, you know, the brands that I would like to, you know, work with. And I would say those partnerships and relationships have developed over that time. So, you know, I would order products when I was going to do a pop up event, when I had an order, you know, I would ask them, do you do drop shipping? No, okay, what's the minimum order? You know, I got started in a very small way. And so that's how the relationships began pop and Barkley was really with me from the beginning. And so

Ronjini Joshua:

yeah, they're very cool. They're, um, so yeah, how do you? How do you kind of choose? I think you were mentioning that you work a lot with black owned businesses, of course. And then women owned businesses. So how do you guys vet, the companies that are coming? I mean, there's so many brands are coming out right now. So how do you vet that and kind of determine what you want to partner with?

Olameji Pierce:

I think we're just choosing what we like. Yeah, to get started. Yeah, absolutely. Um, we have a relationship. But after that,

Ronjini Joshua:

you kind of dive into the look and feel. And then if they respond,

Danicka Brown Frazier:

I mean, the quality, you know, the integrity of the company, what your social mission is, you know, we really care about the mission, the company, like the fabric of the culture, because that's important for our brand. So we really want to make sure that the brands align first, right. So you know, we start there, and then the research about the quality and you know, all that things, and then whether or not they want to, you know, have engaged because what we're doing is new, but it's you know, it's trailblazing, it's groundbreaking, and you know, the more rooms that we sit into, it gives us the confidence to keep moving.

Ronjini Joshua:

So are you guys focused on doing the retail side of it? And then you're just bringing together all the different types of brands? Or is there anything like and of course, you're doing the culture side? What is your kind of overall mission for greenish vibes and what you guys will be maybe five years in the future.

Danicka Brown Frazier:

So I'd like to think of us as the target of cannabis accessories, you know, we are going to curate those collections. From those brands that we'd like, we're going to create those experiences though, that's what's gonna make us different because it's going to be music led and, you know, culture led and you know, what it means to be black and you know, just have those create this community, a collective hub, a safe place, you know, podcast recording, a music recording studio, co working space, a smoking lounge, like I mean, it's a culture space. Yeah, that is where we'll be.

Ronjini Joshua:

I'm glad that you mentioned that. So being women of color, obviously, and black women specifically, like have you found what what kind of challenges have you guys run into and not from the creating a business side? But have you run into challenges from the consumer side? Like, for the people you're serving? Like, do they? Are they still, you know, there's that stigma? So do they still have that stigma? How do you help them overcome that and, and also serving women specifically to like, I think there's always like that little veil that, you know, you have to deal with,

Danicka Brown Frazier:

um, I'll use Copic markers, like the oil, you know, as an example, when we're at pop up events, I will, you know, put some oil in your hand and ask you to rub it into your neck, rub it wherever you feel tension, and, you know, go and then you smell it and you come back to us and you know, so that's like the icebreaker because I want you to know that it works. And if you haven't paid right now, put it there. And then you know, that's how you get to see the work. So

Ronjini Joshua:

like experience was, which is really cool that you're doing this experience in South Africa. Are you doing experiences now? In like California, around California? What have you guys done?

Danicka Brown Frazier:

So we've done experiences in San Diego, LA, Chicago, Atlanta, South Carolina Palm Springs. We were headed to DC before the inauguration, so, yeah, we definitely knew from the beginning that it was important to travel to these places and build our community because we are restricted from advertising. So you know, can't advertise on Facebook, we can't buy a billboard, you know, you really had to be ground level and grassroots building our community.

Ronjini Joshua:

Yeah. I mean, social equity is obviously a huge conversation this year, and many years, but this year, in particular, at mjbizcon. And obviously, partnering with people like pop on Berkeley, they talk about it a lot. How do you feel like that the impact of what's happening in the world is impacting the industry? And what is like your responsibility to kind of, you know, move everything forward.

Danicka Brown Frazier:

You want to take that heavy. Talk about that today. So you can start. I try not to go on record. I weigh in the lightweight.

Ronjini Joshua:

Well, you know, yeah, I mean, I think I'm talking about a general idea of like, you know, yeah, what, what do you what do you think I mean, just not not just you guys as a brand, but all brands that are in your position, we have, like, you know, responsibilities to kind of help move things forward in a way where I don't know, in a way where it works. Absolutely. What does that look like that?

Olameji Pierce:

Um, we're definitely blessed. We're definitely creating and trailblazing a movement forward. However, we're not in the decision making seats. Yeah. To really, you know, this is a question for people who, who need to really look at themselves and ask themselves if they're exploiting an industry that was built by a group of people without involving those people. Like, are you the person shutting the door? Like? Yeah, that's the question. No, today, because we have really run into some challenges. And we're sharp, we're good. You know, we're like, we're the best. So the people behind us some of these who are not as qualified or prepared. Yeah. Because of circumstances of

Ronjini Joshua:

full, you're prepared? Because you have to be right. If not, you're not just prepared. Like, yeah.

Danicka Brown Frazier:

So so people who have, who have aspirations of this industry, they don't have the life experiences that we've had, that were college graduates, you know, we're scholars, children of people who have soared in the world, you know, without calling out all of our, our ancestors, and our parents accolades were really good. But these people that we know, some of our peers, they don't have the access, right, you know, because of their circumstances, because maybe their father was the one who's who was in jail for 20 years for, you know, I've got friends like that, from Chicago. Yeah. You know, so that question, I feel like people who are in decision making seats needs to really be making some decisions, they need to be opening up some doors, and it needs to be documented, like, put your money where your mouth is, period and substantial, you know, like, we have the the accolades on paper, it's like, you know, really, you know, invest in my company moved me forward. You know, I mean, I'm a part of the incubator programs at the moment, it's like, you know, we need that access. So I mean, you know, those people in those seats need to really be actively engaging in that way. I mean, Gal individuals like us to partner with, yeah, because we, we go in, we're pulling other people, we're going to introduce you to the people who who don't have access, right, yeah, we'll bring them to the table. Because they are talented. They are qualified, but we are where we are. We know where the cream of the carpet, we know, we've had to sacrifice to sit at the table. We know we've had to sacrifice to gain some access to the little bit of access that we have, you know, so

Ronjini Joshua:

yeah, I mean, that also brings up the point. I mean, yes, doors have been closed and shut for a long time. What about how do you feel about the opportunities that people are also now creating? Because I mean, obviously, it's a big topic of conversation. And so I'm seeing a lot more brands, I mean, I talked to a lot of people. So we're seeing a lot more brands come up with these programs. I don't know how effective the programs are. I don't know if they're just for show and tell. You know, it's really hard to tell, how do we put ourselves in a position where we don't have to wait for somebody to tell you like that you're invited. You know, like, it's, there's that conversation too. It's like, yes, they should be inviting us to the table. But you also can't wait around. I mean, that's not my

Olameji Pierce:

living proof of that. Yeah. And I think we strategically are moving in Africa. Yeah. You know, because Africa is still the wild wild west. There's a lot that can, I was able to say with the Ministry of Agriculture. That was years ago. Yeah. Able to gain access before that, you know, I was in the room with the president of Germany multiple times for business that I had to do in that country. If it's a allowing me to get in that world quickly, then that's where we need to be. Yeah, those are the people we want to be talking to. And so it's uncomfortable sometimes it does definitely drain our pockets. self funded, you know, definitely need to say that. Yeah, um, that we are pulling our own self up by our bootstraps, and we're making it, we're making it, we're making a way for ourselves, ya know, using our culture, using our resources and our blessings. Because I won't ever go over the fact that we are definitely blessed. We know that we're lucky, we know that things are happening for us because we're divinely chosen. And we know that it's not happenstance that just so happen to arrive to meet this person. Oh, you just don't happen to be able to

Ronjini Joshua:

know that it's done anyway. Yes.

Olameji Pierce:

You know, yeah, you know, we're gonna take all that we're gonna make it well, we make it get ready, because then then you can't not listen to what we have to say, then you're gonna have to be faced with the hard truth. Because we're, that's what we're here for. We're here for people like us who don't have the access who don't have the resources, who don't have the pair? Because like, we know, people who parents was locked up while we was in high school.

Ronjini Joshua:

Yeah. Yeah. Seriously, like,

Danicka Brown Frazier:

I remember when I had my it was my high school sweethearts, mother. She when she came on, and we were not together at that point. Yeah, this was just like a friend. And when he told me, my his mom, she had been gone for a while. And when I cry and told my mom, my doctor, Washington, Pierce, mother, my experience with this, and I sit there and cry, that is unacceptable. Those are the experiences our children have, you understand? Or have had to have, we need restore ration for that. Yeah, we definitely need people to be acknowledging it at the minimum. And then we need to be able to be at that table to make decisions and help our people through because it's just, it doesn't make any sense for this to exist if those people do not benefit in some capacity from it. Yeah. So from Oakland, to competence to LA, to Chicago, to Sierra Leone, to oil to South Africa, Johannesburg, like, all the way through and through and through where brown people are, they have to be eating from this industry. Yeah, period until then, and our work isn't done. So. And to add to that, you know, just yeah, they you just to get started, you just jump in, I think that you can't be afraid you got to be in the communities, you have to be, you know, showing up at the conferences, and just, you know, I have made my way here just by DMing people, just by messaging them just literally jumping in and having our goals and say, okay, back up, how do we get there?

Ronjini Joshua:

I think that's one of the biggest, like exciting things about this industry, too. It's like, kind of at this volatile time where if you are persistent and get yourself in there, you can make something happen. And I think I think like people are often scared to jump into something new, and especially where it's, like, still regulated and still illegal. I haven't gotten totally across the finish line yet. But I think now and you can see the energy when you guys head over to that conference. Like, that's what the energy is. It's like, there's so much opportunity, but you could tell it's so very like, infant, you know, like, there's a lot of big brands great. But like lots of little infants, like develop

Danicka Brown Frazier:

to where the potential is. I mean, amazing. It's mind blowing the amounts and pages of notes that we have you. Oh my gosh, we have projects for the next five years. Yeah, I mean, really,

Ronjini Joshua:

it's time to like took it and grab it and run with it. Yeah,

Olameji Pierce:

serious. Yeah. Absolutely. Connect with people like us. I mean, if you just open your eyes and just be open and willing to you will find people who are willing to partner with you who are willing to give you information to have to stay optimistic and positive.

Ronjini Joshua:

Yeah, I mean, one of the conversations I had this week was, he was just saying like, yeah, in an industry, like, you know, I come from a background of technology. So like, in the tech industry, when I started it was infant and it was kind of like how this is now but like now you can't get to CEOs of companies. And so right now in the cannabis industry, you still can you still can reach them. And all you have to do is like put yourself out there. So I think that's a really good message to kind of take away from this too. It's like 10 Now's the time to do it. What have been your What have been your biggest challenges to kind of getting up and running for greenish, but

Danicka Brown Frazier:

access to capital number one? Uh huh. Um, you know, from now, you know, needing a compliant bank account that cost $2,000 And it's like 500 a month. I mean, you know, how do you get started like that stops you because like I said, we started the business, you know, the right way.

Ronjini Joshua:

Yeah. How do you get money if you don't have money? Like,

Danicka Brown Frazier:

on a recurring basis? It's like, okay, I'm gonna start this business with what I have. But if I fly through my money, you know, right. I'm Nowhere. So, you know, access to capital has been the number one thing. Everything else I think has just been flowing, you know,

Ronjini Joshua:

going slowly but surely what, why we always like to try to kind of lead off with like some tips to people who are trying to get into the industry or people who are in the industry trying to make it work. What would you say is maybe like a lesson learned or some tips that you guys, maybe each of you give you a couple of your best tips of people, what they should be doing looking for trying?

Danicka Brown Frazier:

My first tip would be with our logo, not to put the cannabis logo, cannabis leaf in your logo. That was a number one. We got flack right away, Facebook, Instagram, I mean, you know, that perpetuated our inability to advertise because we wouldn't have gotten Flack. So, you know, it was like the sinking of creative marketing is what you're saying, you know, running through your brand strategist, you know, you know, you have to do some of that a little bit of research, but it really some people do have their leaf in there. And some people don't, but it's like, you know, it's personal preference. And is at this point, it's like, No, we should just go modern clean. Yeah,

Ronjini Joshua:

survival of the change attend you when you can right now. Yeah, you can change your brand.

Danicka Brown Frazier:

Because we have enough other barriers, though. If right away, the doors are getting shut because we're not we don't sell. We're not playing touching. So you know, it just sends a bad connotation. We already have a room full of Yeah. Room for the bad experiences

Ronjini Joshua:

already that don't add don't pile on to the stuff that you already have to go through that. That's a good point. Yeah, and I think that's unique to Black Business Owners. I don't think I don't think other other groups have the same challenges. So that's definitely a good thing. What about what about yourself? Um,

Olameji Pierce:

I would say look where other people may not be looking, don't be afraid to look at other people right now looking. A lot of people say, Okay, I want to get into this and I want to still, you know, flower or I want to look at what do you call it? A company and go or complementary businesses? Yeah,

Ronjini Joshua:

accessories or

Olameji Pierce:

something like that. It's infinite. You know, it's infinite. The opportunities in this industry, because it's it is in its infancy stages. So it's developing, and it's growing into all kinds of corporations need professional people, they need to right technology, they need everything, not just people who are specifically working with this plant.

Ronjini Joshua:

Right. There's other industry as an industry. Yeah. So

Olameji Pierce:

I think definitely, don't be afraid to look where it may not be popular to look, just, you know, keep your

Ronjini Joshua:

mind. Yeah, we had a guy a while back. And he was working in someone to say finance. And he just loved cannabis. And he's like, Well, I want to work in there. But I don't know how to do it. And he just transitioned what he did in finance to cannabis. That was, I mean, I think a lot of a lot of people can do whatever they're doing today in the cannabis industry, and they meet people, right? Like, yeah, they're they're still building the infrastructure. So that I think that's like the big exciting opportunity. So I feel like yeah, you don't have to smoke or touch the plan or do any of those things. There's a lot of other things to do. Plus, you could do that others. Yeah,

Danicka Brown Frazier:

I mean, you know, I have a background in finance. And now waiting for her, you know, that I was gonna ask that you can start where you are. We need creatives we need, you know, black and brown faces in the cannabis industry. So you can be marketing, you can be an attorney, and just specialize in the industry. And you can have a whole business right there. Yeah, you know, that's it. Yeah. Just operate where you are and where you are natural, and where your strengths are.

Ronjini Joshua:

So are you guys taking people on this trip with you? And if you are, where can people find that information

Olameji Pierce:

at sea beach was sad to me, and I think we still want to mention something about the trip to but it's sad this trip dot info. And so all the information how to make payments, we are taking a very small group of people. So there's only a few spots left. And we want it to add talk about the traditional communities that we'll be visiting there. You know, I think we left off the second part of Yeah, I'm gonna leave it at the culture part of Israel. We are going to be visiting a number of royal palaces in South Africa. If you're not familiar, the same way that there is a queen of England, there is a queen of Zulu land. Okay. You may know Shaka Zulu. Yeah, their descendants are still in throne. There are a number of traditional rulers and kingdoms around South Africa. And because of my cultural relationships in America, I'm able to enter into some of those palaces, they'll be welcomed. We're going to be taking our brands there. introducing some of these families to Pop it in Berkeley sessions goods, it's legal there. The people are utilizing it medicinal Lee they have been in since Aeons and so we just want to elevate their experience we want to show them some of the nice things that America has to offer to enhance their, their you know, whatever they they're into we're taking some Well, we haven't inked the partnership but we're interested in taking redbelly honey it's a CBD infused Honey When I mean delicious I literally was just eating the honey like trying to take it out of our partners gift bag and everything he does he walk this walk you just put one Don't you want to get him to cuz he's he has a wife. So like, let's give him you have any more money? Yeah. Right things you like he's gonna use them and we can use. That was the deliberation because I only brought a handful. It's like we're hearing. What is wrong with you? Yeah, it was funny. We that's what we're going to be doing. Yeah. Engaging, introducing the travelers to this culture, this rich culture that they have in South Africa. Yeah, that's for the most part. What's what's happening with the palaces and cultural experiences we're going to be visiting. Sorry, I just didn't Oh, yeah. We're going to be visiting. Shaka Zulu, his burial site, as well as King thinky swales burial site. Like I say, it will probably be going to the intead trois dingus while Kingdom household. We know where we'll be visiting the zoo householding. Who knows where else do you know? Where they take you everywhere? Yeah, want to take you everywhere because I just want to show you know their families in town and, and we'll have gifts so we'll be rich. Yeah, like come in. Yeah.

Ronjini Joshua:

Well, that's fairly really exciting. That's really cool. So we'll have all your information and this link, if you guys want it in the show notes. But thank you so much for joining me here. I know it's a busy busy week for everybody. So enjoy, do your business. And yeah, we hope hopefully we can like reconnect and see you guys on the next time around

Olameji Pierce:

for happiness. Thank you.

Ronjini Joshua:

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